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Unusual Gordons?
Amethyst's Red Headed Stranger otherwise known as "Willie" is a "Red" Gordon Setter.   Many lines of Gordons carry this recessive genetic trait.   Some are a solid color, while others display the tan markings typical of a Gordon Setter which is sometimes referred to as the "dobe" pattern.
Hunter was a rescue dog.  He was listed as an English Setter, and that is what AKC says he is according to his ILP #.   However, he most likely is a Tri-color Gordon Setter.